Antw.: Make Metadatas mandatory?

[Manuel Schneider]

Hi Emmanuel,

So far as I remember when we have defined the metadata we also defined that these attributes we have defined are also mandatory, while additional metadata (ideally also defined by dublin core) may be used.

Manuel Schneider

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Datum: Do., Jun. 16, 2011 12:38


Hi

With the multiplication of ZIM files and ZIM editors we need ways to
build overviews.
Without the metadatas they are not easy way to build these overviews
(You have to do it by hand every time).
This is waht I learned by coding the content manager of Kiwix which
works now.

So I think, having ZIM files with metadatas is essential, maybe even
more.
I think we have to push the usage of these metadatas (title,
description, creation date, creator, favicon, language) and I see 3
approaches:

(1) Make these informations mandatory
(2) Make a recommendation but nothing blocking
(3) Do nothing and be optimistic

What would be your preferred approach?

Regards
Emmanuel

[e***@public.gmane.org]

Hi

I updated the documentation and make the pre-listed meta information as
mandatory:
http://openzim.org/index.php?title=Metadata&diff=prev&oldid=1296

I tested in that way the Mediawiki:Collection extension, the problems
are:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28953
* No description
* Favicon is always the same

kiwix Perl script is already updated and each new ZIM will provide this
meta informations.

Regards
Emmanuel

Post by Manuel Schneider
Hi Emmanuel,
So far as I remember when we have defined the metadata we also
defined
that these attributes we have defined are also mandatory, while
additional metadata (ideally also defined by dublin core) may be
used.
Manuel Schneider
Sent via mobile phone [phone]).
----- Reply message -----
Betreff: [openZIM dev-l] Make Metadatas mandatory?
Datum: Do., Jun. 16, 2011 12:38
Hi
With the multiplication of ZIM files and ZIM editors we need ways to
build overviews.
Without the metadatas they are not easy way to build these overviews
(You have to do it by hand every time).
This is waht I learned by coding the content manager of Kiwix which
works now.
So I think, having ZIM files with metadatas is essential, maybe even
more.
I think we have to push the usage of these metadatas (title,
description, creation date, creator, favicon, language) and I see 3
(1) Make these informations mandatory
(2) Make a recommendation but nothing blocking
(3) Do nothing and be optimistic
What would be your preferred approach?
Regards
Emmanuel
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[Tomasz Finc]

We'll certainly want to get this cleaned up in the Collections
extension. I'll add this to bugzilla in case its not already there.

--tomasz

Post by e***@public.gmane.org
Hi
I updated the documentation and make the pre-listed meta information as
http://openzim.org/index.php?title=Metadata&diff=prev&oldid=1296
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28953
* No description
* Favicon is always the same
kiwix Perl script is already updated and each new ZIM will provide this meta
informations.
Regards
Emmanuel

Post by Manuel Schneider
Hi Emmanuel,
So far as I remember when we have defined the metadata we also defined
that these attributes we have defined are also mandatory, while
additional metadata (ideally also defined by dublin core) may be used.
Manuel Schneider
Sent via mobile phone [phone]).
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Betreff: [openZIM dev-l] Make Metadatas mandatory?
Datum: Do., Jun. 16, 2011 12:38
 Hi
 With the multiplication of ZIM files and ZIM editors we need ways to
 build overviews.
 Without the metadatas they are not easy way to build these overviews
 (You have to do it by hand every time).
 This is waht I learned by coding the content manager of Kiwix which
 works now.
 So I think, having ZIM files with metadatas is essential, maybe even
 more.
 I think we have to push the usage of these metadatas (title,
 description, creation date, creator, favicon, language) and I see 3
 (1) Make these informations mandatory
 (2) Make a recommendation but nothing blocking
 (3) Do nothing and be optimistic
 What would be your preferred approach?
 Regards
 Emmanuel
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[Emmanuel Engelhart]

There is still no feature request about that, although these topics
wehre already discussed here:

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28953

Emmanuel

Post by Tomasz Finc
We'll certainly want to get this cleaned up in the Collections
extension. I'll add this to bugzilla in case its not already there.
--tomasz

Post by e***@public.gmane.org
Hi
I updated the documentation and make the pre-listed meta information as
http://openzim.org/index.php?title=Metadata&diff=prev&oldid=1296
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28953
* No description
* Favicon is always the same
kiwix Perl script is already updated and each new ZIM will provide this meta
informations.
Regards
Emmanuel

Post by Manuel Schneider
Hi Emmanuel,
So far as I remember when we have defined the metadata we also defined
that these attributes we have defined are also mandatory, while
additional metadata (ideally also defined by dublin core) may be used.
Manuel Schneider
Sent via mobile phone [phone]).
----- Reply message -----
Betreff: [openZIM dev-l] Make Metadatas mandatory?
Datum: Do., Jun. 16, 2011 12:38
Hi
With the multiplication of ZIM files and ZIM editors we need ways to
build overviews.
Without the metadatas they are not easy way to build these overviews
(You have to do it by hand every time).
This is waht I learned by coding the content manager of Kiwix which
works now.
So I think, having ZIM files with metadatas is essential, maybe even
more.
I think we have to push the usage of these metadatas (title,
description, creation date, creator, favicon, language) and I see 3
(1) Make these informations mandatory
(2) Make a recommendation but nothing blocking
(3) Do nothing and be optimistic
What would be your preferred approach?
Regards
Emmanuel
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[Tomasz Finc]

Excellent. Thanks Emmanuel. I opened up the new feature request.

https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29817

--tomasz



On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Emmanuel Engelhart

There is still no feature request about that, although these topics wehre
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28953
Emmanuel

Post by Tomasz Finc
We'll certainly want to get this cleaned up in the Collections
extension. I'll add this to bugzilla in case its not already there.
--tomasz

Post by e***@public.gmane.org
Hi
I updated the documentation and make the pre-listed meta information as
http://openzim.org/index.php?title=Metadata&diff=prev&oldid=1296
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28953
* No description
* Favicon is always the same
kiwix Perl script is already updated and each new ZIM will provide this meta
informations.
Regards
Emmanuel

Post by Manuel Schneider
Hi Emmanuel,
So far as I remember when we have defined the metadata we also defined
that these attributes we have defined are also mandatory, while
additional metadata (ideally also defined by dublin core) may be used.
Manuel Schneider
Sent via mobile phone [phone]).
----- Reply message -----
Betreff: [openZIM dev-l] Make Metadatas mandatory?
Datum: Do., Jun. 16, 2011 12:38
 Hi
 With the multiplication of ZIM files and ZIM editors we need ways to
 build overviews.
 Without the metadatas they are not easy way to build these overviews
 (You have to do it by hand every time).
 This is waht I learned by coding the content manager of Kiwix which
 works now.
 So I think, having ZIM files with metadatas is essential, maybe even
 more.
 I think we have to push the usage of these metadatas (title,
 description, creation date, creator, favicon, language) and I see 3
 (1) Make these informations mandatory
 (2) Make a recommendation but nothing blocking
 (3) Do nothing and be optimistic
 What would be your preferred approach?
 Regards
 Emmanuel
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